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privacy laws and we need to update those laws. the last time the electronics communications privacy act was updated was in 1986 and a lot has changed since then. >> host: grover norquist what kind of access to law enforcement officials in the government have to our e-mails today? >> guest: right now it's not treated as if it's regular mail, snail mail. they can go into it as a third-party and put it up on the cloud. what we need to do is update the law to go alongside the changes in technologies that are sending each other letters. we send each other e-mails instead of keeping europe letter in your pocket you may stored in the cloud somewhere and that's should have the same privacy that you regular snail mail does in the post office delivering something and if we can do that. we have updated this from time to time, the technology changes. the technology has been changing quicker but to send someone an e-mail is like sending them a letter. it's the same thing. the fourth amendment is still there. >> host: also joining our roundtable today is -- of the hill newspaper. >> my first question
signing up patients in the emergency room. without the health law that's going to continue. community health clinics will put some of these consumer sisters who will sign peoplesoft. that's where a lot of the uninsured go and that brings up an interesting point about taxes. you asked how they are going to collect the fines. they will be a will to collect those fines when they file taxes. over 80% of the uninsured are filing taxes. we know where they are so they won't be able to collect those fines. also may represent an opportunity to get those uninsured people signed up. you're already putting a lot of information, your social security number, your income. that's enough information to tell the government what you qualify for. you qualify for medicaid or to qualify for exchange? that will be an easy way to get people signed up that having to have them take the extra step of signing up through a separate application or another person or going to the post office or wherever you're going to see these basically. >> host: jenny gold is a correspondent with kaiser health. kaiser health news
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